Gun ban statistics project

Now that the Gun Ban Statistics project is starting to get some coverage in the media, we need to decide on the direction it should take. Its original objective was simply to show that gun bans do not make people safer. However, this broad scope brings up some specific questions in practice.

chardson67 questioned an incident report saying that it did not involve the use of firearms. This is a fair comment. Should the statistics focus only on incidents that involve firearms?

I think that to only record gun related incidents, as the PNP seems to be doing, misses the bigger picture. In the wider context of keeping the public safe from violent crime, the firearm is the most effective tool that the individual can use for self-defense. By forbidding people from using this tool, they are more vulnerable to predators. After all, a firearm is not the only object that can cause harm, but it is the most practical tool that even the old and weak can use for self-defense.

Therefore, I suggest that our data should also include incidents where a firearm would have given the victim a chance, even if the offensive weapon was not another firearm.

What are your thoughts?

Gun ban statistics project

i agree with boiledfrog, everything should be included and categorized

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I think stabbings and the like have a place in the stats as well, since the "gunban" also specifically prohibits blades and other deadly weapons.

firearms and explosives only

For me, it should focus on Gun Ban only, e.g. firearms and explosives.

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Simple Economics

It may be too late but let me add some ideas here. We all know that restricting things would only increase demand. When the demand increases, people will think of ways to increase supply. When you ban firearms, the black market business will simply go up. There are probably more than a million ways to smuggle loose firearms in the Philippines via Mindanao and the Visayas Islands. The rebels were able to bring in heavy firearms in the country even during Martial Law, a Gun Ban couldn't simply address those. If the Gun Ban is supported by increased law enforcement initiatives and intelligence, those might work, but I don't see any initiatives and corrective actions being taken to support the Gun Ban. Writing a law or having it imposed will have no meaning or whatsoever if you there is no means to execute them. I suggest you touch on the supporting activities or laws in the enforcement of this ban to this effect. Otherwise, having a ban on FAs will just be useless and a total waste of taxpayer's money. What's the use of enforcing a law when there is no effective means to enforce and police it? These senators must be drinking too much alcohol...they already forgot that the philippines has more than 7,200 islands and it is almost physically impossible to monitor and screen the entire country with just the current strength of the law enforcement agency. You neutralize smuggling by legalizing it, having better control because there is no reason to hide it. We like to compare ourselves with the United States, but we are missing the most important factor, we are not a country of immigrants and therefore the laws and instances must be based on how and what makes the country. The US is the richest country on earth, that is why they can do such things...the Philippines in not even close to the US GDP by any chance.

Simple Economics

It may be too late but let me add some ideas here. We all know that restricting things would only increase demand. When the demand increases, people will think of ways to increase supply. When you ban firearms, the black market business will simply go up. There are probably more than a million ways to smuggle loose firearms in the Philippines via Mindanao and the Visayas Islands. The rebels were able to bring in heavy firearms in the country even during Martial Law, a Gun Ban couldn't simply address those. If the Gun Ban is supported by increased law enforcement initiatives and intelligence, those might work, but I don't see any initiatives and corrective actions being taken to support the Gun Ban. Writing a law or having it imposed will have no meaning or whatsoever if you there is no means to execute them. I suggest you touch on the supporting activities or laws in the enforcement of this ban to this effect. Otherwise, having a ban on FAs will just be useless and a total waste of taxpayer's money. What's the use of enforcing a law when there is no effective means to enforce and police it? These senators must be drinking too much alcohol...they already forgot that the philippines has more than 7,200 islands and it is almost physically impossible to monitor and screen the entire country with just the current strength of the law enforcement agency. You neutralize smuggling by legalizing it, having better control because there is no reason to hide it. We like to compare ourselves with the United States, but we are missing the most important factor, we are not a country of immigrants and therefore the laws and instances must be based on how and what makes the country. The US is the richest country on earth, that is why they can do such things...the Philippines in not even close to the US GDP by any chance.

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‘Robber, thief’ 
apprehended

Note: and improvised .357 caliber was recovered....paltik!...it may not be violent but a gun was recovered and unlicense pa!

 

 

ROBBERY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT

 

Armed men loot jewelry shop

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